On the way with Chom this week we meet Dr. Aom, Dr. Pakpilai Thavisin, an expert in anti-aging medicine and health restoration, who today will share knowledge about taking vitamins continuously to prevent disease better than vaccines? Repairing damaged organs to return to use! Vegans must know, eating plant protein increases the risk of anemia, can’t replace animal protein? 100% of cancer patients lack vitamin D3, food supplements that many people never knew before.
When can we start taking supplements? And what are some things that we lack a lot?
Dr. Aom: Actually, you can eat it right away. Since my child was little, I’ve prescribed him vitamins because the chances of us getting complete vitamins, minerals, and nutrients from food in this day and age are very difficult because vitamins and minerals are found in plants, vegetables, and sour fruits. If we follow the textbooks that tell us how to eat to get complete nutrients and minerals,
You must eat vegetables or sour fruits in all 7 colors. They must be purple, dark green, light green, yellow, orange, red, and white. The white color is not mangosteen, not longan flesh. The white color is garlic, onion, or ginger, which have unique vitamins and antioxidants. You must eat at least 60% of every meal, which is very difficult. In our daily lives, we eat a lot of processed foods, ready-to-eat foods, bubble milk tea, soft drinks, coffee, cappuccino. These things can cause us to lack vitamins, minerals, and nutrients.
What vitamins do most Thai people lack?
Dr. Aom: What do Thai people lack? Actually, they lack everything. If you ask what to supplement first, the doctor would say that the basic one is vitamin C. I believe that many people take vitamin C. Some people might take it every day. Some people might take it when they have a cold. But there is a problem with how much to take. Some people say that the maximum absorption is 500 milligrams. So I just take 500 milligrams. It’s not enough. Because in reality, the body’s absorption is only 500 milligrams, but it’s only 50%. If you take 500 milligrams, you will only get 250.
Therefore, it is said to take 1,000 mg, but there are still details about vitamin C. How much should you take? Actually, I personally started to know about vitamins when I was in my early 20s. I took my first vitamin C. I took 1,000 mg every morning and evening, 2,000 mg a day. During COVID, I searched for papers that there was no vaccine at that time, so what should we do to boost our immunity? There was a study paper published in America almost 30 years ago.
It’s been done since the early 1990s, collecting numbers for a full 5 years, by going to do it on university students in California, 700-800 people on each side. That is, one group didn’t have to take vitamins, lived normal lives, but were kids who attended the same university, likely had similar lifestyles. Another group was given 1,000 milligrams of vitamin C each time, 3 times a day, that’s 3,000. Then the numbers were collected to see if over the 5 years, the group that took vitamin C had fewer colds. This didn’t count common colds, they counted it as influenza, which is the type of flu that causes high fever, requiring leave from school and rest.
Believe it or not, the group that took vitamin C had 84% less chance of getting the flu than the group that did not take vitamin C. While the flu vaccine was just promoted in 2004-2029, before the COVID-19 outbreak. This is the number that Dr. Anthony Fauci, Director of the CDC Center of Disease Control, came out with. The average protection from 2004-2029 was only about 40 percent. In conclusion, 3,000 mg of vitamin C per day can protect more than that. It works better than the vaccine. And there is another paper that has been out for a long time. This one says that people who get the flu vaccine every year, when they get infected with a different strain of flu, for example this year you got the ABC vaccine and you got XYZ, you have a higher chance of dying from pneumonia than people who did not get vaccinated at all. The doctor has never vaccinated against the flu camp and doesn’t think he will.
Actually, I never had an annual vaccination before, but I was advised to get one while I was pregnant. I noticed that I got sick often. When my child went to school, they would bring the virus to me. But the doctor said it would be better not to get one?
Dr. Aom: It’s better not to get vaccinated. This is a personal opinion. You don’t have to believe it. But I’ve read many papers. In reality, to be safe from disease is to have good health for a long time. I just got a line that Thai people live longer by 12 years, but the last 10 years are so sick that they’re almost in a wheelchair or bedridden. People live longer because of science. Whatever it is, modern medicine has a lot of it, so it makes us live longer. But if you ask if there’s quality of life, quality of life might not be it. Instead of increasing lifespan, that is, longevity.
We should increase our Health Span. For example, if we die at 80 years old, instead of getting sick at 70, why don’t we get sick at 79? This makes our health span as long as possible, and that’s what’s called healthy longevity, which can be done. In fact, good health cannot escape food, exercise, sleep, and emotions. If we balance these 4 points, we will be healthy until the last minute of our life. We must have discipline, we must not want to get sick, and not just give in to our desires all the time.
Regarding vitamin C, the doctor said to take it in the morning and evening. Should we take 2000?
Dr. Aom: It also depends on the type of vitamin. Actually, they should be separated because in general, vitamin C is absorbed immediately when taken. And actually, if you take 2,000 at once, the maximum absorption is only 500, so it should be distributed separately. Nowadays, there is vitamin C that we call slow-release. They might add some starch to it, so it’s not absorbed at all. Otherwise, if you take it, it will be absorbed into the bloodstream within 1 hour and shoot up. In 3-4 hours, it will be gone. We should distribute it.
As in the research, it was distributed to be taken 3 times a day. At that time, before 2000, there was no slow-release type, but in the modern era, there is a slow-release type. It may come up and then it gradually comes out little by little. Generally, they claim that it will last 8-12 hours. If we take the slow-release type, it doesn’t surge, our urine isn’t very acidic, it’s gradually released. Take it in the morning and evening and it will cover us with vitamin C, strengthening the immune system all day.
Does that mean the keyword for vitamin C is slow release?
Dr. Aom: Slow release and should be done twice a day.
Another one that I believe is very common and has received more attention during COVID is vitamin D. Now, there is vitamin D2, right? How are they different?
Dr. Aom: Naturally, let’s say we go out in the sun and we have vitamin D in our skin, we will help create it. It will create mostly D2, and then it has to be converted in the kidneys to D3. This is according to the theory that I’ve been repeating since I was a child. We shouldn’t lack vitamin D. We can just walk in the sun for 15 minutes. But because we’re afraid of melasma, we don’t want to be in the strong sun, right? But everyone, even if you take vitamin D2, which according to the textbooks, the kidneys should convert to D3, which is the active substance, in addition to helping strengthen bones, it’s called arming the killer white blood cells.
It helps NK cell Natural Killer Cell, which are white blood cells that help eliminate enemies, kill germs, kill viruses, kill cancer, to work even better, which has to be D3 again. Patients who take D2 will say they take 20,000 IU 2-3 times a week, but the blood test results are good, meaning everything is good, up to 50, 60. But if you have blood test results separated into D2 and D3, but it’s 50, then you are D2 at about 45, with D3 remaining less than 10. I’ve seen a lot of them. Anyone whose D3 is less than 10, the doctor will say, ask permission not to leave the hospital until they agree to inject it into the muscle.
What are the factors that will make him convert to D3?
Dr. Aom: This is hard to answer. In theory, it’s the kidneys, but it’s possible that our kidneys aren’t working well, or that our bodies are acidic because the patient doesn’t eat 60% vegetables a day. Just drinking soda makes us acidic for 3 days and 3 nights. Drinking 1 can of soda, because in order to drink 32 liters of water, it takes 4 days. And it’s not water with a pH of 10. If it’s normal pH 7, regular mineral water with a pH of 7 or 8, you might have to drink water for a whole week to wash away the acidity from 1 can of soda. Looking back at this, the human body has to be alkaline.
The pH value is measured by the pH value in the veins. The pH is 7.35-7.45. If it deviates even a little bit, down to 7.3, you are starting to get sick. If it drops to 7.2, you might collapse. If it drops to 7.1, you will be hospitalized. If it drops to 7.0, you might be in the ICU. This is balancing the acidity and alkalinity. If you ask the doctor, it is something that is very important in taking care of health. The kidneys are responsible for expelling waste. Acid is waste. The kidneys are responsible for expelling acid and storing alkali. Therefore, if the body still has a lot of acid, the kidneys are already working hard and may not be ready to change D2 to D3 for us.
Should everyone take D3?
Dr. Aom: Everyone, since we were kids, we’ve been telling ourselves that D3 dissolves in oil and helps strengthen bones, right? But actually, later on, there was interesting research that found that 100% of cancer patients lacked vitamin D3, so we continued to study what D3 did. As I said, it equips NK cells, Natural Killer Cells, to work even better. And it was interesting because they found out why elderly people over the age of 60-65 who got infected with COVID had a very high mortality rate.
700% to 7 times higher than young people. But why do some young people get Covid and then immediately go into a coma and die? They found that anyone who has a severe vitamin D3 deficiency is less than 13, 13 nanograms per DL. When blood is drawn, anyone who has a severe vitamin D3 deficiency, if they get Covid, the chance of death increases to 14 times, 7 times higher than the elderly.
Do we need to take it with meals?
Dr. Aom : Every single one. Actually, there might be B and C which are water-soluble vitamins that can be taken on an empty stomach. But if you take it on an empty stomach, if it’s normal C, not slow release, it will cause stomachache because vitamin C is acidic. And vitamin B, if you take it on an empty stomach, it will make you nauseous. Vitamins are food. We already have vitamins in our natural foods, so taking every vitamin, including minerals, should be taken with food. Therefore, some days when I’m an IF doctor, I take vitamins with the first meal of the day. But actually, we don’t call it after breakfast anymore. We tell patients to take it after your first meal. The first meal is at noon, so the first meal is at 2:00 p.m. You should take it then because it needs to have food.
